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Offical Elo-Style Ladder Ranking System Beta Testers Thread

Postby ProtonageNet » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:29 pm

All information to the beta testers of the Elo-style ladder ranking system will held here.

Developers:
TeratO
ALACN
IncaWarrior
ProtonageNet

Beta Testers:
TeratO
Scorpion
joris_master
[GOD]Dark_Lord
NGKAYIN
[xXx]Husky
[rw]haRd-Wear
[HUN]MR-TaNk


Please visit TeratO's ELO league table experiment here: http://popre.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4395&start=23

This is not the same thing as the elo league table experiment. The testing that goes on here is for development of the detection of win/lose/lagouts and other in game statistics we need to reverse engineer populous.

please view our memory matrix here:
http://paulpedia.com/populous/memory_matrix04.htm


Tasks Accomplished:
    Real-Time Game Statistics (fights won, shaman deaths, buildings destroyed, etc)
    Player Name to Tribe Color
    Real-Time Ally Status in Game
    Game Launch Detection from Level Select Screen
    Lag or Lost Connection Detection
    Resync Detection
    True Win/Loss Detection
    Number of Troops and Types

Tasks in Queue:
    Player Dropout after Game Launch from Level Select Screen
    In Game Timer
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Postby [TDM]Mr_Moores » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:51 am

use some tester that have brains and experiance terato has one and not the other and others dont have experiance
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Postby [AsG]daroo » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:14 am

good luck guys :)
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Postby ProtonageNet » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:06 pm

I got those guys to get me into 4 player game so i could log memory values.. I will need people to lose games so I can log win results when win and also lagout results.
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Postby Suleiman » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:01 pm

Delete the other four on this subject since we have an official one. Now that the reigns are being placed in the hands of someone other than TeratO, I'll support this system of recording wins / losses more.
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Postby ProtonageNet » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:15 pm

win/lose results can now be detected by debugging a line of code in assemb and looking for a pointer to the lang file that is also loaded into memory. works perfectly for win/loss/ and lag or lost connection detection!
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Postby ProtonageNet » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:18 pm

right now i have a map for color to player, and also a launch game byte that changes when game is launched, that can be used to verify game is in playing mode and we can grab stuff like the level name they are playing on, and the players in the game, and the color assigned

hard part right now is detecting if player made it to the game and is playing, some cases players make it to the launch screen then host launches and they get a black screen and never play, while host and other clients think he just quit. this will be not that hard because MM can detect player came back from game with no loss report and everyone else is in game so the match will be invalid and no records offical
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Postby HuGZ » Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:51 pm

It's getting somewhere, that's all that matters.
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Postby Zeyta » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:17 pm

[TDM]MooresMurder wrote:use some tester that have brains and experiance terato has one and not the other and others dont have experiance


What the hell does experience have to do with it? :/

Anyway, I want to beta test this. :D
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Postby HuGZ » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:44 pm

Then come on when ProtonageNet is in the MM.
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Postby [AsG]Drummerdude48 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:13 pm

Hows the testing coming along?
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Postby d4d4 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:38 pm

anyway, i think its a waste of time, ask king warg to help u out :), on his mm you can choose the colour of your tribe, protonage reckon you could do the same?
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Postby Lich » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:04 pm

definatly not a waste of time, this new system will do away with all the drama of the current leagues, ranks/points will actually mean something, u'll actually be able to be proud of ur rank.
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Postby [AsG]Keith52 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:15 am

Think we should delete all the points and switch to this too.
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Postby [AsG]Sub_Zero » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:29 am

Or keep the points for name change purposes, and charge 500 points per change
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Postby [AsG]Sub_Zero » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:31 am

Why can't it edit my posts here?!

I was gonna add i'd like to see this project actually work but it does seem a little deaders
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Postby [AsG]Keith52 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:34 am

I agree with that point charge. Maybe even more for the change, to make it for the serious players with an already established point average.

But then the players like Drumz0r wouldn't be able to get in... And he's definently a good elo entrant.
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Postby [AsG]Drummerdude48 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:04 am

[TDM]Benjii wrote:I agree with that point charge. Maybe even more for the change, to make it for the serious players with an already established point average.


Im not sure if he ment the charge as entrance into the ELO system or if the charge for name changing was just put up to 500 points a name change? :?

However personally i think it should be a level playing field, ie no entrance charge required to enter the system. In this way it is fairer to everyone and gives players who wouldn`t be able to afford the charge atm a chance to show what they are really made of. Eg someone who has joined recently and is rising throu the ranks fast but is not recongised for it? This new system could propabally help stop fake nameing too?
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Postby [AsG]Sub_Zero » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:58 am

I meant 500 points for a name change keith.. the ELO should be for everyone

And you couldn't noob bash cos you're a noob yourself, geddit?
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Postby [AsG]Sub_Zero » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:21 am

Come and easily pwn me then!
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Postby d4d4 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:47 am

hey termite, could i be a tester?
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Postby [AsG]Drummerdude48 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:38 am

Sorry to bump this thread (again) but has this project been abbandonned? :???: What work is left to be done? Any idea when this system will be introduced, if it is going to be? and are testers still required because i would be more than happy to join :)
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Postby ProtonageNet » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:04 pm

I have to put the project on hold for a while, need to find more time with alacn to implement what we have into the MM and talk to the database.

Will post back here when we resume the project.
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Postby TeratO » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:22 pm

... atleast a statement after 2 months of no reply to any pvt, pm or email.

... and the same "dying" like it was round 4 years ago ...

Btw i have an idea how to implement automated Elo to Pop without the need to recode the MM and taking alacns time. (and without a new Matchmaker or splitting the community - just to avoid misunderstandings). Just talk to me if ur interested and have programming skill.
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Postby Taity-mini » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:02 pm

On the other mm we have used the elo system for some time look <a href="http://mm.wildman-productions.org/index.php?action=showpage&pagename=ratings">here</a>
Look at our system if you need any ideas
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